Peter’s Policy Palsy Pales

Jul. × ’14

In life, in business, in relationships and in the NHL, neither success nor failure are instant. On occasion it appears that a team or business has succeeded or failed in the blink of an eye, what you are seeing is that iceberg tip those final twenty stories of a skyscraper that bring it above the rest. On July one, Peter Chiarelli and Cam Neely swept over the horizon and promptly fell flat on their faces. They made exactly one move on the day. They signed a no name plugger who will likely never see NHL action in a Bruins uniform.

But where does this spectacular failure stem from? Last season yes they went over the cap by about 4.7 million. Yes, with that money they could have kept Jarome Iginla, but they’d still have needed to come up with money for rookie sensations Torey Krug and Reilly Smith, and likely Matt Bartkowski and or Matt Fraser. But why did they get to this place? How? When they won the Stanley Cup they had more depth than last year at every position, they had as much youth, they were just as close to the cap (they went over that year too).

The answer lies in the composition of the roster. There is exactly one player on who played most or all of last season in Boston who was drafted and developed since Peter Chiarelli took over, and that’s Dougie Hamilton. One of 23. You can add in Ryan Spooner if you’re feeling generous since he was exceptional at the AHL level and held a place for a good stretch of games mid season as well. If you go back to the Cup year, Tyler Seguin was the lone player to be drafted and developed here and well, he didn’t last long.

Brad Marchand, David Krejci, Patrice Bergeron, Milan Lucic, are all players that were drafted before he took the helm. Zdeno Chara, Johnny Boychuk, Loui Erikssn, and all the rest were either brought in via trade or free agency. The player not named Seguin (Dallas Stars) and or Hamilton to be drafted since Chiarelli took over is Jordan Caron. He of course has produced less points than Shawn Thornton during his tenure.

What does this mean? It means the Boston Bruins have overpaid for free agents from Michael Ryder,  Steve Begin, and Joe Corvo and spent too much to get under achievers like Tomas Kaberle in trade. It means that instead of bring up young players like the Los Angeles Kings and Chicago Blackhawks, they brought in guys who no one will remember fondly like Peter Schaefer, Andrew Bodnarchuk, and Jay Pandolfo because the draft has been largely an excuse for other teams to laugh down their sleeves at consistently inept drafting.

The overpayment on free agents has translate into what can conservatively be figured at a 10% increase in the salary many of the Bruins developed players have received since. It means that instead of drafting players who fit the system, Peter Chiarelli and company have waited until two or even three years of RFA status of a player have been burned meaning not only will they over pay these players  who have little to no loyalty to the team, it means that even if they aren’t overpaid they will likely hobble the team with an unneeded no trade or no movement clause for a player who is a nice fit but is eminently replaceable.

This level of personnel mismanagement also means bafflingly bad trades that give up guys like Vladimir Sobotka and Kris Versteeg for guys no one remembers the names of. After half a decade and what most regard as a flukey Stanley Cup win the Bruins attempted a course correction with a change in scouting directors. The first run with the new leader shows he probably has as deft a touch in his current position, as his more famous brother had at coaching in the desert.

Cap mismanagement, inability to draft and negligible ability to recognize which players can be got without a no movement or no trade clause, and an over devotion to player like Caron and Hamill who consistently fail to live up to expectations that’s a hell of a dossier for his next position.

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Pivotal Players: Free Agency Is Here

Jul. × ’14

With Jason Spezza already dealt the market has seen its first bellwether. We know what the trade value for a top level offensive center. At 31, there’s still a chance Spezza could sign long term and be a big part of the Dallas Star’s success in future. Who else will set the standard for guys like them?

Jarome Iginla, the only UFA who scored 30 goals last season. A first ballot hall of famer who proved that even in the playoffs he can produce without a center showing up for work.

Josh Gorges, the defensive defenseman is overdue for change (even if it is really difficult to imagine the Montreal Canadiens without him) entering next season with four years remaining at under four million, and 30 years old he’s a 2/3 defensemen in 25+ systems in the NHL.

Paul Stastny, a young, effective forward. One can ask if he’s a piece or a complimentary player, but there’s no denying when he’s dialed in he’s damned effective.

Brooks Orpik at 33, the clock is ticking if a Stanley Cup ring is in his future. Does he feel the Penguins are moving in the right direction? Can someone offer him a great ride on a top contender? Those are the factors that will weigh in on his choice.

Ryan Miller, hands down the best goalie in the batch. Would he be the perfect fit for the Minnesota Wild? He’s been healthy which none of their guys have, he’s played with several of the the key guys on the roster in the Olympics.

P.K. Subban, the top free agent of any kind this year is an RFA defenseman, he should receive offer sheets and arguably with Gorges likely departing he should sign one of them. Whatever price is set for him, whenever and wherever he signs will be the high water mark for defenseman for the next couple years.

Jaden Schwartz put up good offensive numbers on a defensive team, with 25 goals and 56 points, its going to be hard to argue what he signs for won’t impact other RFA forwards this summer.

Anton Stralman is a defenseman who made himself more valuable with his playoff run. Is he an elite #1 defeneman, no. But then there are only about four to six of those in the NHL right now. Based on his playoff run, there are some, starting with his agent who will argue he’s in that next group of defensemen.

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Who the Bruins Must Trade And Why

Jun. × ’14

The Boston Bruins are as far into salary cap jail as any contending team since the Chicago Blackhawks ended their four decades long drought. They quite literally have to trade someone, and probably more than one person in order to be able to put a team on the ice in October. If they aren’t cap complaint they can’t play.

With just 18 players signed, lists them as having less than $350,000 available per player to sign a minimum of 3 additional players, and experience has shown us the Boston Bruins like to carry an extra forward and defenseman each. With their available space roughly half of league minimum and the need for a top line right wing, even allowing for all of Marc Savard’s money being put off onto the long term injured reserve, there still isn’t much room to bring in a right wing for the first line, resign Smith, Krug, allow for injuries, and possibly acquiring an expiring deal later in the season. And one has to remember that Hamilton’s deal expires this season, as does Soderberg’s. Eriksson and Lucic only have one more season beyond the current one as well.

Any shift in a team’s composition has to start with who can’t be traded. While I’m of the belief that if Bobby Orr, Wayne Gretzky and Ray Bourque can be traded anyone can be, for some players and teams it would be hugely impractical to move someone for on and off reasons. It’s in no way controversial to say that Patrice Bergeron and Zdeno Chara are not players the team should consider moving for anything less than a kings ransom. Why this is doesn’t need to be discussed further.

The next tier would be players it would be foolish to trade either because of a mix of remaining RFA time and pure upside, unique combination of skills, or because they are expected to perform at a given level and they currently have a contract commiserate with that level. That list is pretty short as well, three players long, Tuukka Rask, Milan Lucic, and Dougie Hamilton are on that list, and you can make a very strong case to put Brad Marchand here as well.

That’s two to six player that moving would damage the team more than any conceivable benefit. The next thing you have to look at is depth in a given position. The Bruins have several young prospects at goaltender, Svedberg, Subban, Gothberg, Morrison but none who are ready to be the #1 goaltender for a team with this style, and who expect to contend now. At left wing, they have arguably their second best forward position with Lucic and Marchand as full time top two line wingers on any team in the NHL Eriksson able to flip between the wings, and Paile able to slide up and down the chart.

Defense is the backbone of the team, at this point its a given Chara and Hamilton will return, Krug is likely, and Seidenberg’s trade value is essentially zero at this point so he’ll be back unless he specifically asks out. McQuaid has about the same trade value as his German counterpart. Miller is cheap, and the return on him wouldn’t be enough to justify the time it took to trade him.

The Bruins are desperately lacking at the right wing position. No further evidence of this is needed than them having acquired the ancient Jagr and Recchi in the past few years to play there. The team, and any sensible portion of the fan base are still hoping to resign Iginla. There are a host of prospects in the AHL, junior hockey and fresh out of the draft who might fill in adequately but no known quantities.

Center is hands down the Boston Bruins deepest position. After Bergeron the team finished the season with Campbell, Kelly, Krejci, Soderberg, with their resumes endorsed with NHL playoff time. Ryan Spooner earned some regular season time, as did Lindblad and Khokhlachev. Spooner still projects as a 1/2 center, Soderberg held down the 3C spot admirably in Kelly’s absence and, Khokhlachev has KHL experience in addition to his AHL and OHL time.

When you look at who’s contracts are up soon, where the depth in the system is, and who has the least unique skill set in the system and the most potential return the Bruins will likely end up trading David Krejci and Johnny Boychuk. Both have been good soldiers, but Krejci has a big cap hit and didn’t really justify it last season. He played between two guys who have scored 30 or more goals in a season and ended up 11th on the team in playoff scoring (Iginla 3rd Lucic 4th), and barely outpointed Bergeron who played notably fewer minutes with more of them on the penalty kill, and lesser offensive linemates.

For Boychuk, he’s a more than serviceable 2nd pairing defenseman, he’d be great to keep if the team has room to do so. He’s reliable, largely healthy, but his offense is meager and he’s not as defensively adept as Seidenberg and he’s not going to put up the offensive numbers of Krug, Hamilton, or likely Morrow whenever he cracks the lineup.

If you’re interested in seeing what a post Krejci-Boychuk roster might look like if most roster positions are filled with in system talent, here is one possibility which allows for a great deal of bonus overage from last season.

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A Guide: Factors Of A Trade

Jun. × ’14

The salary cap, retirement, injuries, personality conflicts, and variable motivation are all among the factors that can and do lead to NHL trades. But how do you evaluate who needs to go in any given situation?


Unless you’re going for a pure salary dump and going for an advantage in the draft

  • Does the trade provide the replacement for the player(s) being moved?
  • What is the time table for integrating the replacement(s) into the system?
  • What is the cost of replacement ?

Comparative Qualities:

  • Where do the differences lie in talent between departing and incoming players: is the player a right or left shot.
  • Skating ability: Is one player better laterally than the other faster, better turning, weaker going backward?
  • Physicality: Does one player resemble Clutterbuck in hitting and the other is more like Jaromir Jagr?
  • How much do they want to be on the ice at all times? Are you getting or giving up a Rich Peverley who has a heart attack on the bench and wants to keep playing or the guy who gets cramps and wants to leave a playoff game?
  • What zone or zones doe this player do their best work in ?
  • North-south player or east-west?


While in some cities this will make less impact than others, if you are trading away or for a major name you need to be prepared for it good or bad.

  • Is your guy selling more jerseys than some teams?
  • Will this guys playing style sit well with the local fans and media?

Team Chemistry:

Some teams think they can win on pure talent, (see Capitals, Washington, Sharks, San Jose) but this isn’t quite true.

  • Are you getting a party boy?
  • How is the balance of leadership going to change?
  • How is the ice time shift caused by changing personnel going to impact other players?
  • Will off ice activities and or religious beliefs interfere with their integration into team culture?
  • How much happier will your key players be with someone being moved out gone?

Interwoven into all of these is what you plan to accomplish your goals, short term, long term and in between. If you’re shaking up the roster because you think apathy is the order of the day but you’re not expecting a big swing in the standings, who goes and who stays isn’t nearly as big a deal. Are you tanking? Making a run for the playoffs? Is the goal to sacrifice a bit of high end talent for more depth? Or are you making that nearly mythical trade to bring in The Guy who will take your team to the promised land? No matter what the level of player(s) or pick(s) moved, there is no such thing as a zero impact trade.

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PuckSage Triple Deke NHL Draft Drinking Game

Jun. × ’14

It’s that time again gentle readers. We are at the beginning of a new epoch in the careers a couple hundred hopeful young men. Two hundred and ten of them will be drafted in Philadelphia. Many will be present, some will go high and hard, some will fall, and others will splash into the pool of ignominy, much like enthusiastic participants of this here drinking game.

To play along you will need three different beverages, and of course the ability to see and hear the draft.

Beverage 1:

Take one sip:

  • a current NHL player is shown on the screen.
  • a coach is mentioned as being new in his current position.
  • a prospect is said to have leadership qualities.
  • the combine is mentioned.
  • an NHL or team executive is shown and their playing career is mentioned
  • a picture of Philadelphia that has nothing to do with hockey is shown.
  • A team makes a dramatic pause in the middle of their selection.

Take two sips:

  • A prospect is selected and they stop to hug, high five or shake hands with more than five people.
  • A trade of players you’ve never heard of occurs.
  • A team trades for a first or second round pick in next years draft.
  • pictures or video is shown of a former NHL player
  • Free agency coverage is mentioned.
  • each time a place or team is referred to as a “X factory” (goalie, defense-man, NHL draftee…)
  • a prospect is called “coachable”
  • two or more NHL players are mentioned as having played on the same Junior or College team.


Beverage 2:

Take one sip :

  • A team representative mentions addressing a need.
  • how long a draftee is away from being an NHL player is discussed.
  • A franchise is mentioned as being in a rebuilding mode.
  • More than four representatives of a team go up on stage to announce a pick.
  • A “top 10″ prospect is shown before his name is called.
  • a prospect is asked who they model their game on.

Take two sips:

  • the Flyers fans in attendance fail to loudly boo a rival teams representatives.
  • Flyers GM Hextall appears on stage or screen and doesn’t get a standing ovation from local fans.
  • someone speculates on “the Russian factor” of where a prospect has or will be taken.
  • A general manager pronounces themselves happy or satisfied with the draft.
  • Craig Button or Bob McKenzie express surprise at where a player was drafted.
  • Whenever someone is asked about changes to their position or the team.


Beverage 3:

Take two sips

  • a player is drafted that is related to one or more current or past NHL players.
  • a player is drafted and is related to one or more NON-hockey professional athletes.
  • a baffling trade of NHL players is announced.
  • a team trades out of the first round.
  • anytime two players in a row are taken from any league other than the OHL.
  • a prospect is shown in their jersey and it looks like a little kid wearing his dad’s jersey.


Triple Deke, when ever an item on the list happens, take one sip of each beverage.

  • A player is drafted five or more spots above where they were projected to go.
  • A general manager says “we really liked (player’s name) and…”
  • a coaching vacancy is mentioned.
  • a player falls more than 12 spots below where they were projected to go.
  • the number of times a team has drafted in a particular range in the last decade is mentioned.
  • two or more OHL players are drafted in a row.
  • anytime a player who makes more than four million a year is traded.
  • video of Ron Hextall playing is shown (one bonus sip if footage includes a fight.)


Please remember neither PuckSage, the NHL, your internet service provider, you fourth grade teacher, first crush, last crush, the monsters under your bed, and the voices in your head and or anyone else you might want to blame for any stupid things that happen after you take the dubious step of taking part in the drinking game. Please keep PuckSage updated with those stupid things if you somehow retain the ability. Comments here or tweets to @PuckSage will be very entertaining, but do not signify anyone or anything condones your deleterious actions, and just as a friendly reminder there is no delete option for anything that makes it onto the internet.

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Step Behind The Bench

May. × ’14

At some point in an athletes career, they realize their time is done. For some it is when they can no longer get a contract, in other cases they simply can’t making it onto the ice or playing field. When its time to say good-bye to their time as a player, many paths are taken. Some guys go into the broadcast booth having planned it out since junior hockey. Others just want to sit out porch and watch their kids play. A few will go with dramatic career changes that bring them someplace as far removed from athletic competition as the world of fashion or politics.

Having watched a lot of two particular players getting towards the end of their playing tenure, I wonder if the best use of their talents might be behind a bench. Having watched just about all of Hal Gill’s career, you can’t doubt for a minute he has a deep understanding of the game that allows him to take advantage of his average athleticism. He’s been invaluable in several systems under widely different coaches and playing philosophies. Given the number of coaches in the NHL now who were less gifted defensemen than he is, and who likely mentored less men along the way, a coaching position in the NHL, AHL or elsewhere might be the perfect occupation for the next twenty or so years for the towering Massachusetts native.

The other man is possibly even more interesting as a potential coach. Of limited finesse, and clearly a self-made player Shawn Thornton might just be the next Gordie Dwyer. As you no doubt know, Dwyer was a highly physical player who made the transition to major junior head coach. Along the way Dwyer more than double the number of wins his squad put up from first year to second. Thornton has proved a valuable asset to his teams over the years with his gloves on and off, demonstrating an understating of his teammates that allowed him to steer them in the teams best interest. During his professional career he’s played both wing and defense.

Both Thornton and Gill epitomize the adaptability needed to stay in the NHL long term, both have been a part of Stanley Cup wins, and seen all the changes the last decade or so have thrown at players, coaches, fans and the families of players. Either gentleman could be exactly the right cog to help an organizations move forward if they step behind the bench.

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Pittsburgh Penguins Need A New Broom

May. × ’14

The Pittsburgh Penguins have been the most disappointing team in the NHL every year since they won the cup in the entire eastern conference. The Sharks arguably are worse, but then San Jose never actually won offering up the proof that they could, the Penguins did. Why is the new broom needed?

The problem isn’t lack of talent. Whatever else can be said of Crosby, Letang, and Fleury, they have not covered themselves with glory in the playoffs. When they did win the cup, Malkin was the Conn-Smyth winner, Fleury allowed more goals than any other goaltender in that post season. Crosby now has seventeen post season games with just one goal. In this years post season he generated zero points in six games. Letang was scoreless in ten games. In his case, he is coming back from a stroke and a lot of time off, but since being drafted he’s only crossed 75 games in one regular season. Whatever good Letang may do a team offensively, and that’s undeniable, defensively he leaves room for notable improvement.

If anyone needs explained to them why Marc-Andre Fleury needs to be ousted from the Pittsburgh crease, I really can’t help you. He’s a living blooper reel of post season gaffes. His ability to track the puck in pressure situations in almost non-existent. This years .915 sv% is by far his highest in five post seasons, last year he lost the starting job to a man who hadn’t played in the playoffs in about a decade.

Dan Bylsma has failed to keep this team focused in the playoffs every year since his first full season. Five playoff runs, all ending with him looking befuddled on his way to the handshake line after no visible attempts to camp the troubled waters on his bench in the previous several games. The last two years they’ve gotten through their first rounds not because they deserved to win based on the way they played, but because neither the Islanders nor Blue Jackets possessed any measure of playoff experience. This year with America’s best hockey players on his roster for the Olympics he did nothing. The team failed to medal because he is a one trick pony; put the two best offensive players together and pray. That’s it.

Ray Shero has been hunting a white whale for years. Year in, year out he goes out and looks for “someone to play with Crosby”, he brings someone in, they don’t gel, and that person gets shuffled to Malkin’s line where they normally produce at least at the level they did before arriving there. But the subtext to what Shero has done the past half decade is even more alarming when you realize who most of the players brought in were. Last year it was Jarome Iginla and Brendan Morrow, both former team captains, in the past almost everyone brought in has worn a letter. Why? Whether he is willing to admit it or not, some part of him recognized the lack of leadership at ice level. And yet, he kept doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

For Pittsburgh to improve the changes need to be wholesale; Ray Shero and Dan Bylsma need to be given their walking papers. Sidney Crosby and at least one of Marc-Andre Fleury or Kris Letang need to go as well. Without changing the supposed leadership, and the actual faces of the team you can’t change its direction, mental composition or yearly fate.

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How The Boston Bruins Fell.

May. × ’14

The President’s Trophy winning Boston Bruins are going to be watching the final two rounds of the playoffs from Slovakia, Finland, Toronto, and Michigan and points all over the world. What they won’t be doing is playing any more. For a number of reasons, and with the play of several players being disappointing, they didn’t have enough to get the job done.

Zdeno Chara:

At no point in the playoffs was Zdeno Chara a dominant player. Against Detroit he was effective, and at times in the Montreal series he was visible. Not one minute of the Montreal series did he look like a Norris trophy worthy defenseman. We know he had some sort of hand/wrist injury that limited him measurably. He had three games against Montreal with one or zero shots. He totaled ten shots in seven games against Montreal, and twelve shots in five games against Detroit. He seemed to skate at about his normal level, without any moments where he hustled up ice to beat a rushing attacker (this could be good or bad, as the number of rushes when he was on the ice was fairly low) as we’ve occasionally seen. Was he awful? Only in-comparison to his best, he was honestly average, aggressively average in this post season.

David Krejci:

If ever there was a player who wore their current mental state like a one man-band kit, it is Krejci. When he’s dialed in, his passes are crisp, he makes clever lateral moves, and he moves the puck either as a pass or a shot at exactly the right time. When the signal gets fuzzy, he’s ruinous, he dangles more than Tomas Kaberle, his passes are as deft as a walrus on stairs, and he just doesn’t shoot. For the first five games we got bad Krejci, Lucic and Iginla would have charged up ice and gotten to the net, he’d be almost into the zone. The light of good Krejci did strobe briefly across the ice in game six, but it was merely a cameo. When the center isn’t there to control the middle of the ice, the plug is pulled on the whole system. In Julien’s system this is arguably the most important skating position.

Tuukka Rask:

Let’s start with the numbers:

  • Game 1 4 goals allowed SV% of .879
  • Game 2 3 goals allowed SV% of .893
  • Game 3 3 goals allowed SV% of .880
  • Game 4 0 goals allowed SV% of 1.000
  • Game 5 2 goals allowed SV% of .935
  • Game 6 4 goals allowed SV% of .857
  • Game 7 3 goals allowed SV% of .833

Two of the series wins are pretty easy to pick out. The third win? You can’t look at those numbers and say “this one”, you just can’t. By comparison, Marc-Andre Fleury put up better numbers in his seven game series than Rask. Was the defense in front of Rask perfect? No, but he was not only below average for him, in this series he was below average for the the NHL. He wasn’t alone, but as a goalie, the last mistake was his to make, and he did. frequently. Best of all, there’s only three more years left on his $7,000,000.00 a year contract that have the full no movement clause.

The Rest:

Its pretty easy to go through the roster and find players not named Torey Krug or Patrice Bergeron or Dougie Hamilton, or Carl Soderberg and say they were a or the problem. Kevan Miller and Matt Bartkowski were on again off again good to bad. While Miller was making his playoff debut, and has a grand total of 11 playoff games and 47 regular season contests Bartkowski is a bit more experienced with last years 15 playoff games and a total of 84 NHL regular season events. Meszaros was a non factor. Marchand while not potting any goals on several pretty open cages, still created turnovers, made several key passes, and played hard. Eriksson was not what we hoped, but he wasn’t awful, like most of the rest he was pretty average.

The Fatal Flaw:

What killed the Bruins in this series was two things; trepidation and inexperience. The biggest regrets any player should have this summer is the things they didn’t do and they way they didn’t play. Against the Wings and for most of the regular season they were physical, rough men who who stood ready to win at any costs. Against the Habs they played terrified to step into the penalty box. That little corner of the arena looking back  at the team that several players were so familiar with, some how became taboo. Players didn’t commit to the system and they allowed the Canadiens to dictate the way the game was played.  When you’re in a bad matchup, you can’t play your opponents style and win. No matter what style you play, half your roster can’t be playing  like its a father son game full of 11 year olds. Not if you expect to win.

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If I Told You In September…

May. × ’14

A compilation of improbably stats and situations from the NHL’s Stanley Cup Playoffs.



  • Five games into the divisional finals, the Minnesota Wild have still not lost at home, the path here included a seven game series against a team coached by a Jack Adams finalist, and being the lower ranked team in both series.
  • The Ducks have played thee different goaltenders, including a 20 year old American, a 24 year old Dane, and 32 year old from Switzerland.
  • The Minnesota Wild are the only team not to have been shutout this post season.
  • The Chicago Blackhawks are the only team to have two players suspended this post season.
  • The Anaheim Ducks after being average in penalty minutes during the regular season at 10.9 minutes per game, are the most penalized team left in the playoffs at 20.4.
  • Of the three teams with more than one shutout during these playoffs, the Boston Bruins, Pittsburgh Penguins, and Minnesota Wild, the Wild have had two goalies produce one; Darcy Kuemper and Ilya Bryzgaloz
  • The Pittsburgh Penguins lead all remaining teams with three wins when trailing after the first period.


  • Erik Haula leads all rookies in post season goals with 3.
  • Two rookies have shorthanded goals in this years playoffs, Ondrej Palat and Brian Gibbons.
  • Brad Richards leads all players in powerplay time on ice with 61:57, but has just 1 powerplay point.
  • Three defensemen are over a point per game in the playoffs; P.K. Subban 1.33, Brent Seabrook at 1.25, and Jack Johnson at 1.17.
  • With 11 even strength points in eleven games, Anze Kopitar leads all forwards in ESPPG.
  • Brothers Mikko Koivu 57.5% and Saku Koivu 56.9% rank 2nd and 3rd in faceoff winning percentage among players still active.
  • Marc-Andre Fleury has allowed more goals than any other goalie, as he did the year he and the Penguins won the Stanley Cup.
  • Jonathan Quick leads all goaltenders in penalty minutes with 4.
  • Sidney Crosby is 102nd in goal in the playoffs, well behind household names like Brendan Gallagher (4), Charlie Coyle (3), Nick Holden 3, Mathieu Perrault (2), and Raffi Torres (2).

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